Is it legal to require the installation of meters with temperature compensators?

Natalya
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Hello! In our apartment building, gas meters with thermal compensators were installed. They were installed because there were no conventional meters in the city at that time, but it was urgent to connect gas.

Now it's time for verification. Since in our city there is no organization that does verification, the question arose of installing new gas meters.

When they turned to Gorgaz, we were forbidden to put ordinary meters, they demand that we buy again devices with temperature compensators, although metering devices are in apartments. Is this requirement legal?

Visitors Comments
  1. Alexander

    Gas workers in the project prescribe the type of gas meter. This is their right and here one must follow the prescription. But the brand you can take any of the licensed in the Russian Federation. The main condition is that the meter must be verified and licensed.

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    Evgenia Kravchenko
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    Hello. Your situation is a little incomprehensible. Delivered with temperature compensators - approx. There is no organization doing the audit, but there is Gorgaz - how is it? Must be UK or HOA. They demand to purchase thermo again (have you already installed the usual ones?) And there is no verification here, so we will buy new meters. Let's get it right.

    Of course, you can change the metering device, though it is curious where you divided the Criminal Code, Homeowners Association and other control structures for your MKD and what your Gorgaz justifies the refusal of. We will not be unfounded, we will turn to legislative documents. And this is our Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of 05.06.2011 N 354 (as amended on 02/23/2019) “On the provision of utilities to owners and users of premises in apartment buildings and residential buildings”. The document is huge, you don’t need to dig into it, we immediately open Section VII - “The procedure for accounting for utilities using metering devices, the grounds and procedure for conducting checks of the status of metering devices and the correctness of taking their testimonies”.

    Quote from there:

    “80. Accounting for the volume (quantity) of utility services provided to a consumer in a residential or non-residential premises is carried out using individual, common (apartment), indoor metering devices.Approved metering devices that have passed verification in accordance with the requirements of the legislation of the Russian Federation on ensuring uniformity of measurements are allowed. Information on the compliance of the metering device with the approved type, information on the date of initial verification of the metering device and the calibration interval established for the metering device, as well as requirements for the operating conditions of the metering device should be indicated in the accompanying documents for the metering device. ”

    What is an approved type? This is a category of metering devices approved by the State Standard of the Russian Federation, as well as included in the State Register of Measurements. The replaced device must have a certificate of conformity with Gosstandart accreditation, a passport and a mark on the initial inspection.

    So, we buy meters that meet all the requirements. So far, only in theory. If Gorgaz does not justify your laziness under the law, when you show them this decision.

    We look further:

    “81. Equipping residential or non-residential premises with metering devices, commissioning installed metering devices, their proper technical operation, safety and timely replacement must be provided by the owner of the residential or non-residential premises. Putting the installed metering device into operation, that is, documenting the metering device as a metering device, according to which it calculates the amount of utility bills, is performed by the contractor, including on the basis of an application from the owner of the residential or non-residential premises filed with the contractor. ”

    In the Criminal Code or other body, you submit an application as follows (in general there is a sample, but I will give you an example, ask for a sample when applying, they should give it):

    1. Your information - name, details of the submitted document with which you prove your identity, contact phone number.
    2. The proposed installation date and time of commissioning.
    3. Information about the meter and the place of its installation.
    4. Information about the organization that the IPA will install for you.
    5. Indications of the device at the time of installation.
    6. Attach all documents to the IPA and a photocopy of the passport - “person / registration”.

    Next steps:

    “81 (1). The contractor is obliged to consider the date and time proposed in the application for the commissioning of the metering device and, if it is not possible to execute the application within the specified time, agree with the consumer on another date and time for commissioning the installed metering device.
    In this case, the proposal for a new date and time for the implementation of the work shall be sent to the consumer no later than 3 business days from the day of receipt of the application, and the proposed new date of the work cannot be later than 15 business days from the date of receipt of the application.
    81 (2). If the contractor did not appear on the date and time proposed in the application for commissioning the meter or other date and time agreed with the consumer and (or) the new date and time proposed by the contractor were later than the deadlines established by paragraph 81 (1) of these Rules , the meter is considered to be put into operation from the date of sending to the address of the contractor an application that meets the requirements established by paragraph 81 of these Rules, and from that date its readings are taken into account when determining the amount of utility agricultural services.
    81 (3). If the meter is installed by the contractor, commissioning is carried out by the contractor by drawing up and signing the certificate of commissioning of the meter, as provided for in paragraph 81 (6) of these Rules.
    81 (4). During the commissioning of the metering device, the following shall be checked:
    a) the conformity of the serial number on the meter with the number indicated in his passport;
    b) compliance of the meter with the technical documentation of the manufacturer of the meter, including the configuration and installation diagram of the meter;
    c) the presence of signs of the last verification (with the exception of new metering devices);
    g) the performance of the meter.
    81 (5). Non-compliance of the meter with the provisions of paragraph 81 (4) of these Rules, identified by the contractor during the inspection, is the basis for the refusal to commission the meter ”.

    As you see, nothing is said about thermo in cases of refusal ... If they insist again, demand a justified written act of refusal.

    Read this set of rules, it is easy to find on the Internet, everything about commissioning and so on. It’s just that your question is different, we won’t go deeper.

    However, you should not connect on your own, without coordination. And that's why:

    “62. If it is discovered that the established connection procedure (hereinafter - unauthorized connection) of the consumer’s in-house equipment to house-building engineering systems is violated, the contractor is required to draw up an act on the identification of unauthorized connections in the manner established by these Rules. Based on the act of identifying an unauthorized connection, the contractor sends a notification to the consumer about the need to eliminate the unauthorized connection and charges the utility bill for the consumer in whose interests such a connection is made, for utilities consumed without proper accounting. ”

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